BidFire: Deceptively Easy To Get Burned
I found out about a new auction site called BidFire after they started following me on Twitter. I’m always heedful to sites that appear to be offering high end electronics for next to nothing, but I went ahead and checked it out anyways. After a little observation it was easy to figure out where they were making their money, and that the bidders are vulnerable to spending more than they realize.
At first glance, BidFire is a very cleanly designed site that’s well put together and simple to get around. Kudos to their web designers. There is a short video that explains how the site works. Surprisingly, it has very little in common with eBay for being an auction site.
Instead of being able to bid as much as you want like on eBay, on BidFire you pay each time you bid. It costs $1 and you have to buy bids in packs of 10, 25, 50, 75, or 100 before you can use them.
On eBay when the auction is over, it’s over. On BidFire, the countdown to the auction’s end is reset every time someone bids within the last minute of the auction. This means that an auction could go on as long as bidders have bids they’re willing to use.
Auctions increase at a fixed amount, usually a nickel, on BidFire. This is what keeps their auctions so appealingly cheap. It’s also where they make their money.
I was observing an auction for 25 bids that was valued at $25. With a little over 2 minutes left in the auction the price was $0.10. All of a sudden, the action picked up just like you would expect an eBay auction to. Instead of someone with the fastest internet connection putting in the last bid with two seconds left in the auction, a group of six or so bidders went calmly back and forth sometimes bidding with 50 seconds left and other times with 2 seconds left. Either way, the clock reset to one minute and the price went up a nickel. Here’s where the auction turned into a game of sorts.
The point of the game, as I see it, is to bid as few times as possible to win the auction. The final price is not important because it never comes close to half the retail price of the actual item. Every time the clock nears zero, you have to predict whether or not someone else is going to bid to reset it for everyone else. If no one does, the auction is over. If someone does, a nickel is added to the auction price and the clock is reset to one minute. If two people bid, both are charged with using a bid, the price goes up twice, and the clock is reset just once.
This auction for the 25 additional bids ended with a final bid of $2.15. As long as the winning bidder didn’t bid more than 22 times, he came out ahead and beat the system (22 x $1 + $2.15 < $25). For everyone else who bid, they played into BidFire’s revenue model. It took 43 bids to get the price up to $2.15 so BidFire made $20 on the auction! (43 x $1 + $2.15 = $45.15)
Another auction that just ended was for a Playstation 3 Slim 120GB that retails on Amazon for $299.99. What did it go for? $15.40! Someone got a real steal right? Sure, but BidFire didn’t lose any money. If you divide $15.40 by $0.05 you get 308. BidFire could take the $308 they just made, go right to Amazon and spend $299.99, ship the Playstation for free to the winner, and still have enough left for a delicious meal at Taco Bell.
You might be thinking that $20 here and $8 here isn’t much especially when BidFire doesn’t even have 10 auctions a day, but what if they did? What if they had the right backing where they could have 100 or 100,000 auctions every day? If they did, would economists rule the site and play the odds to their favor? Is it technically gambling since you’re betting your dollar that you’ll be the top bidder each time? How else do you explain not winning an “auction” when it cost you to bid?
It should also be noted that they don’t always profit. If you look at their FAQ, they’ve listed some sample auctions like one for a $50 Walmart Gift Card that was won for $0.05 (technically $1.05 since the bid cost a dollar).
Kudos to BidFire’s clever profit model. Is this actually an old model I’ve never come across (e.g. pyramid scheme)? Please leave a comment if you’re better at math than me and can give me some pointers to gaming the system (legally).
Did you see the apple macbook pro that ended on thursday for just $0.80? Kinda hard to spin that to seem like a bad deal for anyone except bidfire..
Yes, there are deals to be had and they’ll admit that, but not EVERY auction is a loss to them and more times than not they DO profit. It’s a very interesting model to me.
Thank you, very interesting article..
Hey,
I saw this article and it was interesting to read. I myself am a member of bidfire.com.I have won several auctions such as a Nintendo Wii console, PS3 Slim console, and some giftcards. The secret to this is to wait and see how people are bidding on the auctions. Never bid at the beggining but wait till other people waste their bids. Always set yourself a low price and a high price that you want to get the item for. Once that has been established, watch the bidding and how people are bidding for the items. Once you see them bidding a lot, sooner or later they will start to fade away and drop off. Once that happens you can start to put your bids in making you the top bidder with very few placed bids. This is a game that you have to play smart and not stupid. All the items that I have won, I received them and turned around and sold them for a profit!!!!
There is obviously a lot to know about this. I think you made some good points in it.
Keep working ‚great job! This was what I needed to know.
I have created an application that provides historical data on the bidding transactions that you may find useful. If you are interested in seeing my program feel free to contact me.
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I really don’t think this is at all deceptive. People just have to be careful not to get all caught up in a bidding war. Bidfire is in business to make money. What do I care if I can get a $300.00 product for around $30.00. Bidfire will still make money on the deal because of all the biddings but I don’t see a problem.
I think it’s a wonderful idea. Are they listed on the stock exchange? If so, I’d invest in them in a heartbeat.
You made some good points there. I did a search on the topic and found most people agree with what you said.
I watched their slick video telling you all about, how to get great items at low prices. I decided to try with $100.00 and received $115.00 in credit. I wanted to bid on a ipod. It started at $13.50 and went up $.05 a nickel for each bid, or so they said. When the biding got to $26.00. I was informed I need more money. I had just bid $12.50 total and it cost me $115.00 and received nothing. They do not provide a clear understanding for thier bidding practice. I will tell anyone that will listen to stay clear of this RIPP OFF SITE.
Its easy to get cough up in a bidding war. I toyed around with 20 bids today. I won an amazon kindle DX for $60.05. It took 11 bids. I was in a bid war with 4 people. I got lucky and won the kindle. I will caution others to not over bid. If you see a bid war be careful and limit the bidding amount. You wont always win but thats the risk you take with the site.
@Lynda taylor‘: No offense Lynda — but I spent 10 seconds looking at this site and then read the article above — if you spent your entire $115 and got nothing — that’s your fault for not understanding the site — which I believe even my 4 year old could understand. It’s also gambling — you could go to a casino with the same $115 and play $1 slots and win nothing. Are casinos RIPP OFF SITEs too? Don’t blame this site for your shortcomings.
@JasonH: Any single item cannot be a bad deal for BidFire. Intrigued, I’ve been watching an ipod Touch crawl from a nickle to around $70.00 now. At $20 of revenue/every dollar increase in price, this item has pulled in 1,400.00 for those smart folks at BidFire. They can afford to write off a number of items when they are making it hand over fist like this. And as the author pointed out, get a late night snack at Taco Bell.
Yes, it is kind of like a Pyramid model. However one more thing i seriously dont like about the site is– they put Verisign and Paypal logos below to make the site look Verisign certified. But when i click on the Verisign logo for proof of authenticity, it leads me to nowhere.
We were wondering, what if people from the website bid on the auctions which force people to waste bids meaning more money for the site. If the website employee wins the auction, they could just resubmit the item in a later aution making even more money. This is very risky, but plausible.
OK, they lose money on a few auctions. But right now I’m looking at an auction for a Kindle DX. Current bid: $142.45. If the auction ends at that price, bidfire will have collected $(142.45/.05 + 142.45). That’s $2,983.45 for a $489 item, folks.
@Brian and Julie forever: Thats what I have thought of too there are some bidders that go on forever in bidwars everyother bid is there and I could swear that they have spent over 200 dollars just bidding. on a 300 dollar item. I would definantly be careful on this site.
i won a auction on bidfire while the site was loading after the timer timed out i waited several minutes and nothing happened so i refreshed and then i recieved that the site was expierencing problems and they were working on them about 3–5 minutes later the site came back up and they aworded someone else the ipod and closed out the auction
so did i get scamed i think so when i tried to reply to their site there was a problem sending it to their outlook account as well
@JasonH: I cannot get into the website! They have ripped off by $10.00. Is this site legitamate?
I am really wanting to try Bidfire but im worried I spend a lot of money on bids and walk away with nothing. If I knew that if I was persistent I and played my cards right I would probably win I would do it. I guess what I want to know is how many times have you all won vs how many times you have tried hard to win and lost?
I watched what went on with their auctions and to luck out and actually win something you need a ton of bids available. I don’t like that the auction keeps going and going when someone bids at the last second. I also dont like that you have to pay for bids. Either way, I learned the hard way that I wasn’t going to get an iPod for dirt cheap, especially in the middle of the day. Maybe, if an auction ends in the middle of the night you might have a better shot at winning, but I dont know if this site is international or not. If it is then there is always going to be a bunch of people up at all hours of the day no matter what. I didnt think the site was that popular until I saw the bidding war go on right in front of my eyes. I am really disappointed with the site. I also feel that if some of these people have the cash to dish out $1 a bid and buy 100 bids, then they have the cash to actually bid on ebay or just go out and buy the item. For now, until something better comes out, I am sticking with ebay. The auctions end when they say they are going to end, and it doesnt cost a dime to place a bid. There are other sites out there that are charging for bids too, I am sure they are pulling the same scheme. Beware people it is one of those “too good to be true” deals.
P.S. I wish I had known about this article earlier today instead of pissing away $10. At least it only cost me 10 whereas other people have probably spent a lot more to learn what I did.
What is “deceptive” about BidFire is that it is deceptively easy to lose an auction even when you are playing it correctly.
See, usually the bids will be driven higher by someone who, let’s just say, doesn’t get it. They are bidding like its an eBay auction, until, oops! No more bids!
The winners will be the ones who sit back and let that clock get closer and closer to 0:00:00 — biding their time and conserving their bids.
So you sit back and watch as it get to 0:02, and consistently four or five bids hit at the same time, resetting the clock. From the history it is easy to see that three or four people are doing the same thing, just waiting. Problem is, every now and then, we all just wait! And if no one places a new bid, the last bidder wins. It’s really akin to losing the game — its more like the game has a sudden death element that you just can’t predict.
So yeah, it’s basically gambling…
today I found the site and wanted the Kindle DX, I played the bid game and won, I bought $100 and got a total of 115 credits. by the time I won the Kindle DX ‚I
was into it 32 credits and two hours. fifteen of those credits were free. leaving me 83 credits left. However I spent the remaining credits in a bidding war for a mac book– that I did not win– However I am stiil way ahead– $100 spent and $489 Kindle DX won–
@A Beginners Guide to eBay: i agree
I’ve been researching this site and stumbled across this article. The way I see it, there is no point in placing a bid until bidfire has ensured itself of covering the product in question. So, I have been doing an experiment where I purchased ten bids and have been watching a bid that was supposed to end at 11pm. It is now midnight and still the clock keeps being reset. I’ve noticed the trend that several people are trying to bid last second… but there is ONE bidder who just bids the moment someone else bids. He outbids everyone without nary a second’s thought. It is my theory–an opinion–that bidfire keeps its bidders bidding until the cost of the product is covered and then some. To keep people believing that they are legitimate, the obviously have to allow real people to win…but I do believe that the bidding is drawn out by their own insiders. I really just wish I had thought to make this site myself, because they must be making an actual killing on poor saps.
I think the trick or many tricks are to be pacient, have a good internet connection, fast computer and a “Billy the kid” finger; I want an ipod touch so I google it and I found the Bidfire website, and the last winner was a girl who won an ipod touch 64 GB 3 th Gen for $17.20, according with the article that is $344 dollars, and now they have an auction running and is the kind of bid war for a macbook 13 inches, that normally cost $1,200; by the time I’m writing this the auction price is up to $102 and counting, in real money that is $2040, I can buy two macbooks with that money!!!!! if anyone want to tried this site let say spend $10 once an a while and count them lost, play and choose your items wisely, if I do it is like I throw $10 to the trash, I’ll probably win probably not
Pd. The Macbook bid war is $104 and counting
I love this site. I have won 2 mac books and a playstation for less then $500.00. I dont see anything wrong with this site. People just need to get over it and start bidding.
I read all the negative comments but still decided to try this website out. I decided to bid on a Kindle DX. I actually WON this item for $41 after 100 bids (look in the closed history on their site, my username is watsonm), so I actually paid $141 for this Kindle DX, which retails at Amazon.com for $489. This is a VALID site, I’ve seen many people win, and I was able to get a smokin’ deal on a DX which I badly wanted. Yeah, it’s a gamble, so to speak, but aren’t all auctions? I love it, and for the sake of MY future bidding, I hope the rest of YOU stay away, so I have a better chance of winning more amazing stuff in the future. I love the site. I just wish I was the one who thought of it ’cause they’re raking in some amazing dough, and us consumers are getting awesome deals because of it.
Folks, its a business. They are there to make money. I don’t understand what is so difficult to understand about it. You buy bids, you watch the auction and very carefully place your bids. Yes, luck has alot to do with it, and you quickly learn who is going to give you trouble. One or two bids isn’t going to get it, and bidding like mad just wastes your bids. I laugh my head off at the “snipers” who think this is ebay. It doesn’t work like that, every bid resets the last 40 seconds — which is clearly spelled out in the FAQ.
I’ve won great auctions on this site. Been a user of it since 2009 and I admit that I’ve had bad luck too with winning as well. It’s a gambling site, I know it and I’m sure other users know it too, but I love to play the game. It’s amusing, especially when I do get that little pop up telling me CONGRATULATIONS :] Pretty much Jake from earlier summed it all up.
This site does have a different business model but it’s one that works in favor of both the auctioneer and bidder! I have won over $600 worth of products from this site by simply doing my research. I observed the site for several weeks before placing my bids — failing at the first couple of attempts but then learning from my mistakes won a Kindle for $20 — and then continued with Amazon.com gift cards and Xbox games and etc! Just do your research — you can get some awesome products for 1/3 , 1/2 or less the price. I also can’t stress the FAIRNESS of this site — other similar sites use annoying autobidders, autobutlers, or autosnaggers, for Bidfire.com you can’t use the automated scripts — you just have to use your ole fashion mouse click and your noggin!
I think Bidfire is a great site if you want to win awesome items at a great price. Yes, there is some skill and luck involved, but for the most part I have nothing but good things to say since I have won multiple items for cheap! Don’t knock it until you’ve tried it. THANKS BIDFIRE!
I have been using bidfire for a while now and I have to says this is a legitimate site. I have won an IPod touch for $8.30, an 8GB memory card, a $50 Target gift card and an all in one printer. I will use this site in the future for buying Christmas gifts for my family members.
Believe it or not, BidFire is a real site. My username is HaramiBidder there. The reason why it’s difficult to win is because there are a lot of bidders out there so too much competition. You have to have a technique to win. I joined in January and I lost the first day. The second day, I started seeing how others were playing and I also saw some bidders winning all of the time and I examined how they played. I tried their technique and I won $500 Amazon gift card. Lately, I have been trying to win an Ipod Touch and MacBook Pro but there are even more bidders out there making it more challenging to win!
I did not go around complaining that Bidfire is a scam. Instead, I kept trying and the past two months, I have been winning various things. All of the things you were observing was because of some inexperienced bidders that don’t know when to bid so whose fault is it that they are bidding without a strategy and losing? Maybe if people followed your logic, they wouldn’t bid.
I skeptical about the site as many are but I figured why not try it, I won on it and received my winnings today. For the people who say that they see the same bidders on it spending more than its worth, think of all the people that sit in casinos dumping money into gambling, once they get started and have the investment into they want to win their money back and not give up, exactly what’s happening on Bidfire. The people not only have the comfort of being home but can just keep going back to their credit card to reload. The site is real just be sensible when bidding, and when you do win you will see.
i love this website. i’ve used this website and won some good stuff. i love this site.
I watched this site for a while trying to figure out if it was for real. When I decided that it may be just a chance but worth a few bucks for a try. Timing, watching and a little luck of when to jump in (like any auction) plays a part but on the first auction that I bid on it took 4 bids to win a $500 Kindle DX for $28.15… and the 4 bids of course. Then I still had a question of whether I would actually receive the Kindle but sure enough it arrived in less than two weeks. I’m jci34 and yes, Bidfire works great!
Bdifire site is pretty kool. i have won several items on this site. If you are angry that you didnt win then i guess it was just not ur day. There are many more who also want the same thing like u and who are also spending money. So it’s just the matter of who got the determination and who is up for anything. You gotta RISK it to get the BISCUITTT
I really do not know what are you talking about I won 2 items on bidfire and they were deliver on time!!! also I got them veeeeeeery cheap
I have tried several sites too. Swoopo (impossible to win at) but I was lucky enough to win several items on BidFire (but it can be hard). They even follow and enforce the rules!! One of the rules is you can only win 3 auctions in a seven day period. Long story short I came in second for a 27″ TV (pissed me off), however the next day I was contacted by BidFire and apparently it was the 4th win for the top bidder, so they offered me the TV for the price of my final bid $12.25. — I got REALLY lucky.
It is a gambel but as of today
Items I won include:
– True Blood Season 1
– True Blood Season 1
– $75 Amazon card
– 100 free bids
– Micro scrubber PRO
– 26″ Panasonic TV
– Samsung TL225 Camera
– 16GB Flash drive
– 500GB External drive
– Maddon NFL 2010 PS3
– 160GB iPod classic
And spent around $600 in bids (spread out). Not including the final cost of the items which totals less than $100.
You can check the history I am “LouDogLB”
I love bidfire!!!! I won a Kindle DX, which retails for $489 for under $50. This includes the bids I purchased, the final bid price, and shipping and handling!!!! You are taking a risk of bidding on items and not winning; however, when you win you win BIG!!!!!! I don’t care what other reviews say Bidfire clearly lays out how the auctions work and I will continue to purchase bids to try for the big ticket items I want to win. If I spend another $400 on bids and do not win another I will still come out on top because I got an amazing Kindle DX for less than 25 bids, $10.15 final bid price, and $9.99 s/h!!!!!!!!!
I think it’s cool if you get a good deal. You just have to know how to strategize and know when to stop bidding when you are at a loss. If you don’t, you loose money and would probably hate the site; on the other hand, if you win, you would think the opposite.
@Alice:
The problem I have with Bidfire is that there’s no way of knowing if they use fake bidders to artificially drive up the prices on their auctions.
Therefore, it’s impossible to know whether or not Bidfire keeps its bidders bidding until the cost of the product is covered and then some…or they just make sure their own fake bidders win so that they don’t have to deliver the auctioned item at all. And then, sometimes they lose on purpose, just enough, in order to keep people believing that they are legitimate — they obviously have to allow real people to win sometimes so that those people will then go on websites like this one and give a testimonial of how they actually won something to further dupe the general public…but Bidfire considers those “the cost of doing business” and as long as they make sure their auctions produce more revenue than the cost of shipping real items, Bidfire is merrily staying profitable for themselves.…but I think that the bidding is drawn out by fake bidders.
And the only guarantee that they offer that they don’t use fake bidders (or shill bidders) is their “word”. hahah. yeah, and I personally give you my word that if 1000 readers of this blog send me at least $1 each, I will give a $1000 prize to the one who sends me the most money, but of course you will not know who the winner is, only I know (like how only Bidfire knows the identity of its winners). You have my “word”.…that’s hardly the kind of customer assurance that a legitimate business would offer.
I have been a winner on Bidfire and can attest to the fact that it is a reputable company and I got my product within 5days of my winning bid. I would highly recommend this company to anyone
How surprising, a company that’s in business to make money…Bidfire’s business strategy shouldn’t surprise anyone who’s spoken with someone who’s been on the site or to anyone who has seen the video on how the site works. Sure you’re taking a risk by bidding on auctions but nobody is scamming you. They tell you upfront how the site works. In order to win all you need is some time, dedication, and a few brain cells.
KarmaSaidStop
Bidfire is awesome! First of all, i only bought about 100.00 worth of bids and i won so much stuff such as the macbook pro, ipod touch, ipod nano, headphones, and i keep winning more. Plus you don’t pay more than what it actually costs. The thing is that you have to know when to play. If you play a couple of times then you will get the hang of it. Bidfire is not a scam, it’s the best thing that ever happened!!
I know a lot of people think this website isn’t for real. I know, I was one of them! My son won a 64gb Touch iPod and Noise cancelling headphones, and called and told me all about Bidfire. I couldn’t believe it. I told him I would be a believer if and when the items actually came. Four days later, there they were. Brand new! Now, I love the website. I can’t say that I have been as lucky, however I did win a movie. I am fascinated by just watching all the action.
I think bidfire is a fun and cheap way of getting the things you want without the high prices of retail. So you dont win them all boo hoo. Of course bidfire makes their money why else do it. If you have the patience and manage your bids you can pick up some great deals. If you dont first succeed try again. You spend fifty on bids and lose them all so you get fifty more then you win(get)(out smart someone)for a 1200$ tv plus shipping and tax and what you spent less than 10% of the retail cost. It’s a no brainer.
Yes, it is gambling in the form of an auction. @Miranda No, not all auctions are a gamble in the same sense, because you don’t lose money if you don’t win. BidFire clearly explains the rules of the game– if you can’t figure out just from the rules that it’s gambling, you’ll probably learn the hard way.
There’s a warning toward the bottom of BidFire’s Terms and Conditions, which must be agreed to before becoming a member:
NOTE: We would like to advise all Users to monitor their bidding practices. Repeatedly placing bids online at http://www.bidfire.com can incur high costs. Users should therefore pay attention to their bidding practices and check their charges.
I understood what I was getting into when I first became a member. I’ve won some and lost some. Unfortunately, I’m currently down by $533.89 ($1,472.89 spent -$939 won), but I can’t blame anybody but myself.
@Max Yes, it’s a clever business model, but the principle is not new. About 7 years ago, I heard a negotiation professor describe conducting an auction for a dollar bill during his seminars. The twist was that the second place bidder had to pay too. He said that sometimes the bidding would go as high as $20 for the $1 bill, because when bidding reaches $1, the auction became about losing less instead of winning.
It also reminded me of a game of chicken or the quote from A Civil Action (1998): “The whole idea of lawsuits is to settle, to compel the other side to settle. And you do that by spending more money than you should, which forces them to spend more money than they should, and whoever comes to their senses first loses.”
You get burned because you get careless about what you are bidding on. Some people are really stubborn and use a ton of bids at once, but the thing is its not a deal for them! I got Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 for $0.10! (http://www.bidfire.com/auctions/1873)! You just have to learn how to bid!
I have won and I know other people who have won, it is something you just have to try for yourself and once you win and receive your item that’s when you know its real. Its a gamble, your not going to win every time but when you do its great
My girlfriend told me about this site and I honestly thought she was lying through her teeth. She had won a Wii system for .80 cents and I said it was a hoax, there was no way they were going to give it to her and lose out on that much money. But a week later she got it, so I had to try this site. I instantly saw that major items were always watched, so it took me a while but I finally started to win some items, and in the mail they came from Amazon. This site is awesome. Of course I know I’m not always in a win win situation, considering how much I put in and the value of what I’ve won, I’m up quite a bit. GREAT SITE!
–dtoral20
tpboy45:
I love this website, you can get all kind of cool stuff for a deep discount (if you know how to bid strategically) I once got a Fitness platform for just a dollar, plus shipping and the bids I used, it’s less than $20 bucks!!! WHAT A DEAL!
Sorry, but I like bidfire… my sister and I both won 3rd gen 64 gb ipod touches… We took a small risk and got a great deal out of it. GOOD JOB BIDFIRE!
Bidfire isn’t a scam! Its real & honest as Ebay I’ve read alot of these NEGATIVE reveiws and find them 2 B unjust ( i’ll say ) mayB if they knew how 2 bid they’d change their attitud. Of mayB if I was a sore BIDDER I’d Be full of negative comments.
BidFire.com rocks. I find myself going there to see what they have and deciding if I want to take a shot at it. That is the key thing, you have to understand when to bid. I won an Apple MacBook Pro 13.3-Inch Laptop on the site for about $35 plus about $5–8 for bids, I know I was very lucky about the price I paid. But, when I was bidding, I had a total price that I was happy losing, till I reach that number, I was going to keep on trying. I could see the site as a gambling site, however that odds are much better in my mind.
I have won 2 auctions on BidFire! I received the products in less than 2 weeks and I couldn’t be happier. This site is legitimate. Thanks BidFire!
BidFire is a good time! Sure some auctions make money but its still a win win situation. You have to know what you can afford to lose and possibly get an awesome deal. You cannot expect BidFire not to make some money. They have auctions of all levels. They also ship quickly. I love it.
I do agree with all the points you made above and all is pretty acurate; but I myself like the site. I think it is a gread idea and you can win things at a really discounted price if you catch it at the right time.
So what if they do make money, isn’t that why everybody wantes; getting something you want at a lower price! and then everybody wins! You just have to set your limits and be wise about it. Gambling is gambling, no matter how you look at it.
This website has changed my shopping experience. I now buy items off of this site through bidding instead of paying retail value. On average users save 60% on most items including large items like Ipod Touches. They also offer many facebook and twitter promotions which give free bids to users risk-free. I have yet to purchase bids on this site because I was awarded free bids but I highly recommend you check out this site, as you can save big-time. I won some nice skull-candy headphones for $5.00, they normally go for $50 in the store. Thanks Bidfire. Don’t miss out on some awesome savings, what’s the risk if you were going to buy those items anyways.
Proof this site is legit: http://www.bidfire.com/auctions/1861
I love Bidfire! I have won several items and will continue to win more!!
I am also a member of bidifre.com and have wona apple I pod touch 64 gb (with bid $ spent and actual cost 22.65) and a Kindle dx (total with bids spent 36.79) Yes I have bid on other items and not won anything…but that is only up to me no one makes me buy more bids and spend more.….. If you spent a lot of money and won nothing that is your own fault. Didn’t you read the rules?? They simply state how it works.…. and who cares if bidfire made money…I still got awesome deals on items that retailed for WAY more than what I paid for them!
i see this website a very fun game, you might not get what you want but it is fun! i like it. i have heard about this site from my friend, and decided to try it out. i bought $100 worth of bids and didn’t how what to bid on and also wanted to watch it for a while so i get the idea of when i should start bidding, finally i was looking at this $50 amazon gift card was at $14, and bidders weren’t as consistence as earlier so i gave it a try, so i won the $50 gift card with ONE bid. later got my gift card through e-mail in 2 days. you just have to be smart about it!! so what if the website makes money?? how many of you went to a casino and lose money and still had fun? so dont complain just because you are not the winner!
I have won, once. It is tough to win. It can be expensive to win. But BidFire and similar sites act more like live auctions in one way than does eBay. Go to Sotheby’s for the real auction experience. The timer on BidFire is the equivalent of the “going once, going twice” warning of the auctioneer. In terms of not having a fixed end time, BidFire is definitely an auction site in a truer sense than is eBay. To characterize these as gambling sites because the auction continues after each bidder raises the price is to mistake the model at eBay for an auction. EBay has a fixed end time which many people now associate with an eBay “auction”.
It is the revenue model of selling bids which is not consistent with live auctions. Live auctions charge an auction premium which is where the house makes its money. In my opinion, charging for the bids themselves makes BidFire more like a dollar slot machine than an auction.
I won an iPod Touch which was exactly as advertised and arrived promptly from Amazon. I purchased approximately 150 bids and paid approximately $100 for the item. So a $400 iPod Touch cost me $250 all in. I did not go back to BidFire because:
1) I was primarily there to experiment with their model as a consultant to a potential competitor.
2) There is some seemingly irrational behavior among bidders partially related to loss mitigation which is a defect in the BidFire model.
3) Bids are expensive and do not count toward a purchase of the product. At least one other site credits the cost of one’s bids toward the purchase of the product during the auction which eliminates the “loss mitigation” mentality that sometimes compels bidders above the outright purchase price on BidFire. For example, on a competitor’s site if you spend $350 on bids for a $399 product you can click a button before the auction ends to buy it now for $49. After buying the product one is no longer allowed to continue bidding in that auction but the other bidders are left in exactly the same position they were in. This is a much needed enhancement on BidFire.
4) Rarely during the period when I was experimenting with BidFire was there a glitch as reported in another review. I did see what I thought was a glitch that appeared to result in a different bidder than I expected winning the auction. I later determined the “glitch” was actually a network lag external to the BidFire site.
5) At a nickel increment per bid, BidFire is raking in $20 per $1 of product price. In many instances I saw BidFire collecting multiples of over ten times the cost of a product, e.g. $700 for a $500 gift card translates into $7000 paid by BidFire bidders just for bids plus $700 paid by the winning bidder for a $500 gift card, over a 15x multiple. In the instance of the auction I won, BidFire collected approximately $1,000 for bids plus my $100 for a total of $1100 for a $399 iPod Touch.
its legit and yes pay attention… but i wona kindle dx for 14$ and some change… so i know its real and not a scam.…
Well I can’t go on Bidfire for a week because I just finished winning my 3rd auction in a week’s time. I bought 115 bids for $100 and won a $70 thumb drive, a $50 Target gift card and $25 in Fandango bucks, plus I still have 70 bids left! All of you non-believers can stay away…that way it will make it easier for me to win more! Thanks Bidfire! (user name kenny)
I love bidfire. I have won many of things from bidfire. Sure I have lost, but your not going to win everytime. This takes strategy and skill. Scam? No scam, just people with an unrealistic idea of what to win and how to win it. I have also spent about 600 in bids, however I have won about 2000 dollars worth of stuff. I takes patients and skill; I enjoy bidfire immensely.
Heard about, found it, loved it, played it, won a Kindle, lost on others, but had a blast. I only play when I can afford it, cheaper than driving to Louisiana to the casino. Got my Kindle no problem.
I won using bidfire and N.Nelson is spot on! No one made me bid on anything. I came out with what I wanted and I continue to use them and recommend them highly!
I’ve decided to close the comments on this post since it’s just become a BidFire love-fest and nothing constructive is being discussed. Thank you for all of your feedback and please keep coming back to read new articles.
PS This post wasn’t getting any comments until someone from BidFire approached me to and asked me to change the title of this post…